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	<description>Animal Behavior Modification</description>
	<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 12:31:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Sophia Gets Stuck with Some Bengal Cats by Sophia Yin, DVM</title>
		<link>http://askdryin.com/blog/2009/11/23/sophia-gets-stuck-with-some-bengal-cats/comment-page-1/#comment-264</link>
		<dc:creator>Sophia Yin, DVM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 07:29:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm. Seems the 9 year old Bengals aren't so bad. As a  matter of fact, two 9 year old Bengals and one partially trained 7 month old Australian Cattledog are still easier overall than one JRT with arousal and fear issues:-).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm. Seems the 9 year old Bengals aren&#8217;t so bad. As a  matter of fact, two 9 year old Bengals and one partially trained 7 month old Australian Cattledog are still easier overall than one JRT with arousal and fear issues:-).</p>
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		<title>Comment on How Puppy Class Nearly Ruined My Dad&#8217;s New Pup by Sophia Yin, DVM</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sophia Yin, DVM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 07:18:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rambunctious beagle x pup: One reason I was happy to take Lucy from the breeder before she was 8 weeks of age was that the puppies were playing really rough and growling a lot at eachother (e.g. they just went back to playing rough later on after being growled at:-). Then when I got Lucy after the bad puppy classes she was not backign down, even to older dogs that growled at her because she was too busy being aroused.

So, then over the next month (would have been shorter if I hadn't been taking lots of photos and video), I focused on training her to focus on me around the other dogs before she could interact with them. Then I'd let her play on leash for a few seconds or under a minute and then call her away and play games with her so she'd focus on me again. Also let her interact with dogs who were older and much bigger than her and that were assertive enough to tell her to back off if she was bugging them. She did listen to them and stop pestering them. But with smaller dogs I didn't let her pester because I knew that she would ignore the dog reprimands and then jump on them again. Or that she would listen temporarily but then jump on them later. This is what she would do with Jonesy and it would cause Jonesy to become more agitated. And of course when Jonesy' agitated it makes him worse in other situations:-).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rambunctious beagle x pup: One reason I was happy to take Lucy from the breeder before she was 8 weeks of age was that the puppies were playing really rough and growling a lot at eachother (e.g. they just went back to playing rough later on after being growled at:-). Then when I got Lucy after the bad puppy classes she was not backign down, even to older dogs that growled at her because she was too busy being aroused.</p>
<p>So, then over the next month (would have been shorter if I hadn&#8217;t been taking lots of photos and video), I focused on training her to focus on me around the other dogs before she could interact with them. Then I&#8217;d let her play on leash for a few seconds or under a minute and then call her away and play games with her so she&#8217;d focus on me again. Also let her interact with dogs who were older and much bigger than her and that were assertive enough to tell her to back off if she was bugging them. She did listen to them and stop pestering them. But with smaller dogs I didn&#8217;t let her pester because I knew that she would ignore the dog reprimands and then jump on them again. Or that she would listen temporarily but then jump on them later. This is what she would do with Jonesy and it would cause Jonesy to become more agitated. And of course when Jonesy&#8217; agitated it makes him worse in other situations:-).</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sophia Gets Stuck with Some Bengal Cats by k9diabetes</title>
		<link>http://askdryin.com/blog/2009/11/23/sophia-gets-stuck-with-some-bengal-cats/comment-page-1/#comment-262</link>
		<dc:creator>k9diabetes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 07:08:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Between Lucy and the Bengals, I'm thinking you must be on insanity's doorstep by now!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Between Lucy and the Bengals, I&#8217;m thinking you must be on insanity&#8217;s doorstep by now!</p>
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		<title>Comment on How Puppy Class Nearly Ruined My Dad&#8217;s New Pup by Sophia Yin, DVM</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sophia Yin, DVM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 07:06:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That's great that you are doing the KP academy! Wish more veterinarians would participate!

For puppy class, the best material I have is in the Low Stress Handling, Restraint and Behavior Modification of Dogs and Cats book. It goes over the exercises and important points of puppy classes (and kitty classes--you should actually do these. They are easier than puppy classes) in chapters 19, 20 of the book. And chapter 18 has very detailed, photo illustrated protocols on how to DS and CC to vet procedures such as toenail trim, pilling, giving injections, etc.

I'd also get Trisha McConnell's DVd on dog play.
And Dr. Jennifer Messer has a curriculum for puppy class. http://www.dogwise.com/itemdetails.cfm?ID=DTB961. I have a copy and have been meaning to review it but haven't yet:-).

Sophia</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s great that you are doing the KP academy! Wish more veterinarians would participate!</p>
<p>For puppy class, the best material I have is in the Low Stress Handling, Restraint and Behavior Modification of Dogs and Cats book. It goes over the exercises and important points of puppy classes (and kitty classes&#8211;you should actually do these. They are easier than puppy classes) in chapters 19, 20 of the book. And chapter 18 has very detailed, photo illustrated protocols on how to DS and CC to vet procedures such as toenail trim, pilling, giving injections, etc.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d also get Trisha McConnell&#8217;s DVd on dog play.<br />
And Dr. Jennifer Messer has a curriculum for puppy class. <a href="http://www.dogwise.com/itemdetails.cfm?ID=DTB961" rel="nofollow">http://www.dogwise.com/itemdetails.cfm?ID=DTB961</a>. I have a copy and have been meaning to review it but haven&#8217;t yet:-).</p>
<p>Sophia</p>
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		<title>Comment on Fall Dog Class Fieldtrip a Success by k9diabetes</title>
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		<dc:creator>k9diabetes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 06:13:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the field trip Sophia! :) I know that it was a lot of work and probably a little stress full for you riding herd on all of us and I really appreciated the opportunity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the field trip Sophia! <img src='http://askdryin.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> I know that it was a lot of work and probably a little stress full for you riding herd on all of us and I really appreciated the opportunity.</p>
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		<title>Comment on How Puppy Class Nearly Ruined My Dad&#8217;s New Pup by vetnmom</title>
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		<dc:creator>vetnmom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 21:31:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Dr. Yin, 
&gt; I am a veterinarian very interested in behavior &amp; love reading your  blogs. I am going to be starting at the Karen Pryor Academy next month. I'm always looking for as much info as I can get. 
&gt; 
&gt; I was wondering if you had a protocol for puppy class. This would  be one area that I think I can get started with now but don't want  to mess up any dogs like your dad's puppy class. 
&gt; 
&gt; Also, I have been fostering 4 beaglex puppies &amp; am keeping one. I  have been working with them since they've been born &amp; it seems to be helping. Now I want to take the next step with my own for  socialization with other dogs &amp; people. He tends to play rough with  his siblings &amp; they give it back but I don't want him to do that  with other dogs. He did growl at an adult dog the other day while  he was sitting in another veterinarian's lap. She was correcting  him &amp; I said to let him be. What is the best way to approach this  problem? 
&gt; 
&gt; Thanks so much for any help you can give. 
&gt; 
&gt; Tracy Johnson</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dr. Yin,<br />
&gt; I am a veterinarian very interested in behavior &amp; love reading your  blogs. I am going to be starting at the Karen Pryor Academy next month. I&#8217;m always looking for as much info as I can get.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; I was wondering if you had a protocol for puppy class. This would  be one area that I think I can get started with now but don&#8217;t want  to mess up any dogs like your dad&#8217;s puppy class.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; Also, I have been fostering 4 beaglex puppies &amp; am keeping one. I  have been working with them since they&#8217;ve been born &amp; it seems to be helping. Now I want to take the next step with my own for  socialization with other dogs &amp; people. He tends to play rough with  his siblings &amp; they give it back but I don&#8217;t want him to do that  with other dogs. He did growl at an adult dog the other day while  he was sitting in another veterinarian&#8217;s lap. She was correcting  him &amp; I said to let him be. What is the best way to approach this  problem?<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; Thanks so much for any help you can give.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; Tracy Johnson</p>
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		<title>Comment on How Puppy Class Nearly Ruined My Dad&#8217;s New Pup by Sophia Yin, DVM</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sophia Yin, DVM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 04:33:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, it's frustrating when owners and instructors are not well-informed because it affects not only their dog, but your dog too! 

I also have Trisha McConnell's DVD. Just got it and plan to watch it soon. All 3 of my books (The handling book comes with a DVD) come up on google. The How to Behave So Your Dog Behaves is at Border's right now because it's out of stock at Amazon. Paperback version will be coming out in summer.

Sophia</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, it&#8217;s frustrating when owners and instructors are not well-informed because it affects not only their dog, but your dog too! </p>
<p>I also have Trisha McConnell&#8217;s DVD. Just got it and plan to watch it soon. All 3 of my books (The handling book comes with a DVD) come up on google. The How to Behave So Your Dog Behaves is at Border&#8217;s right now because it&#8217;s out of stock at Amazon. Paperback version will be coming out in summer.</p>
<p>Sophia</p>
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		<title>Comment on How Puppy Class Nearly Ruined My Dad&#8217;s New Pup by daizyngeorge</title>
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		<dc:creator>daizyngeorge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 00:31:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's so true that a lawless puppy class and most likely a well meaning but under qualified instructor can make matters worst by not educating the owners.  

It's a double whammy by setting the puppies up for some challenging times socially ahead.  Learning to communicate with a little puppy is a learning curve to get your timing down pat even when you have a good instructor, but atleast in the end you will know what you should be doing.

It's important for me to teach by dogs how to be well adjusted socially (within their capabilities) as I want their world to be bigger than their backyard, or walk around the block, or just a romp at the dog park.  

I learnt the hard way that some dogs and owners are happy to ignore or brush off your polite signals or requests to please, call their dog back to them.  My dogs are smaller and have had their share of being bulldozed, and I've paid the price.  So now I watch their body language from a distance, and if I can see they're out of control, or even just too happy to see my guys not to be able to listen to their owners,  we u-turn or cross the road. 

It's just too bad that the norm is misinformed.  Thank you for sharing your blog with the world!
I hope it is distributed to class instructors!   

I just ordered Dr. Patricia McConnell's dvd Dog Play! I'm very excited.  I tried to google your books/dvd but came up empty handed :(

Lucy is full of beans.  Cute as can be and very lucky she has you.

cheers, 

kate</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s so true that a lawless puppy class and most likely a well meaning but under qualified instructor can make matters worst by not educating the owners.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a double whammy by setting the puppies up for some challenging times socially ahead.  Learning to communicate with a little puppy is a learning curve to get your timing down pat even when you have a good instructor, but atleast in the end you will know what you should be doing.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s important for me to teach by dogs how to be well adjusted socially (within their capabilities) as I want their world to be bigger than their backyard, or walk around the block, or just a romp at the dog park.  </p>
<p>I learnt the hard way that some dogs and owners are happy to ignore or brush off your polite signals or requests to please, call their dog back to them.  My dogs are smaller and have had their share of being bulldozed, and I&#8217;ve paid the price.  So now I watch their body language from a distance, and if I can see they&#8217;re out of control, or even just too happy to see my guys not to be able to listen to their owners,  we u-turn or cross the road. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s just too bad that the norm is misinformed.  Thank you for sharing your blog with the world!<br />
I hope it is distributed to class instructors!   </p>
<p>I just ordered Dr. Patricia McConnell&#8217;s dvd Dog Play! I&#8217;m very excited.  I tried to google your books/dvd but came up empty handed <img src='http://askdryin.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Lucy is full of beans.  Cute as can be and very lucky she has you.</p>
<p>cheers, </p>
<p>kate</p>
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		<title>Comment on Fall Dog Class Fieldtrip a Success by Sophia Yin, DVM</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sophia Yin, DVM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:11:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like your dog's come a long way. Yes unleashed dogs and poorly behaved owners can pose a problem and set your training back. In addition even on-leash dogs can be a problem. Once I had 5 different dogs lunge and bark and Jonesy (my JRT) when we were jogging. This was 5 unrelated dogs in different locations along the run. And I think it was probably at 7:00 am in the morning and we probably only ran 5-7 miles!

I generally just focus on keeping Jonesy focused on me even as the dog is really near. For me, I also sometimes have to just let him be on a loose lead to sniff the dog for an instant and then call him away. For other dogs I have to rely more on a head collar such as the genlte leader to help keep them focused on me. Of course this works only if they are already really really good with the GL.It's definitely challenging. Several weeks ago in class one of the dog's owners got scared when a young dog in class started running towards hers during the come when called races. She wrapped her arms around her dog to protect her dog when she could have just as easily backed away and kept her dog focused on her. So next class we worked on mild emergencies several times. Now the owner doesn't panic when a dog runs up off leash and is able to keep her dog focused on her. She also now sees that it's the other dogs who are ill-behaved compared to hers who is now really well controlled and focused on her in public with distractions. So sometimes it's just about relaxing so that you can react the way you would in a less scary situation.

but it sounds like you're doing well!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like your dog&#8217;s come a long way. Yes unleashed dogs and poorly behaved owners can pose a problem and set your training back. In addition even on-leash dogs can be a problem. Once I had 5 different dogs lunge and bark and Jonesy (my JRT) when we were jogging. This was 5 unrelated dogs in different locations along the run. And I think it was probably at 7:00 am in the morning and we probably only ran 5-7 miles!</p>
<p>I generally just focus on keeping Jonesy focused on me even as the dog is really near. For me, I also sometimes have to just let him be on a loose lead to sniff the dog for an instant and then call him away. For other dogs I have to rely more on a head collar such as the genlte leader to help keep them focused on me. Of course this works only if they are already really really good with the GL.It&#8217;s definitely challenging. Several weeks ago in class one of the dog&#8217;s owners got scared when a young dog in class started running towards hers during the come when called races. She wrapped her arms around her dog to protect her dog when she could have just as easily backed away and kept her dog focused on her. So next class we worked on mild emergencies several times. Now the owner doesn&#8217;t panic when a dog runs up off leash and is able to keep her dog focused on her. She also now sees that it&#8217;s the other dogs who are ill-behaved compared to hers who is now really well controlled and focused on her in public with distractions. So sometimes it&#8217;s just about relaxing so that you can react the way you would in a less scary situation.</p>
<p>but it sounds like you&#8217;re doing well!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Fall Dog Class Fieldtrip a Success by canuckcattledog</title>
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		<dc:creator>canuckcattledog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:32:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I liked how you discussed dealing with public (for ex: how to let people know politely that you don't want your dog to be pet) as this often isn't discussed. I have a similar problem with other dogs approaching mine.

My cattledog x can be reactive with other dogs and we've been working over the past few monthes to the point where she is very focused on me and no longer reacts to other dogs. However, I always have my dog on a leash and three times in the past two weeks she has been jumped on and harrased by offleash dogs(in mandatory leash areas)...including one dog who she got in a fight with (I had her leash and the other dog was loose). People also come towards me and ask if it okay to meet...my dog is not ready for greetings just yet (I only allow her to greet dogs I know and trust and only when she is calm because I want to make sure all of her greetings are good experiences) but people still persist. Even when I say no and clearly back away they continue to come towards me with there dogs

I am not a very "forward" person in that I would never yell at someone (to leash there dogs) and I want to remain as calm as possible so my dog does not feed off my anxiety. I also don't want to say "back off shes aggressive" because I don't want people to think negatively of her. I think its very important that people only let a)trained dogs offleash (ones who do not approach other dogs without being given the cue to go meet and b)do not allow there dogs to meet other dogs without permission (I have heard way to many calls of "he's friendly" ). I am doing everything I can to make my dogs experiences with other dogs as positive as possible..but its difficult when I cannot walk around my own neighborhood without her being harrased. 

I really hope people take this into consideration, both in always asking permission to pet a dog and not persisting if the person says no or is unsure, as well as in letting there dogs run up and greet everydog they meet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I liked how you discussed dealing with public (for ex: how to let people know politely that you don&#8217;t want your dog to be pet) as this often isn&#8217;t discussed. I have a similar problem with other dogs approaching mine.</p>
<p>My cattledog x can be reactive with other dogs and we&#8217;ve been working over the past few monthes to the point where she is very focused on me and no longer reacts to other dogs. However, I always have my dog on a leash and three times in the past two weeks she has been jumped on and harrased by offleash dogs(in mandatory leash areas)&#8230;including one dog who she got in a fight with (I had her leash and the other dog was loose). People also come towards me and ask if it okay to meet&#8230;my dog is not ready for greetings just yet (I only allow her to greet dogs I know and trust and only when she is calm because I want to make sure all of her greetings are good experiences) but people still persist. Even when I say no and clearly back away they continue to come towards me with there dogs</p>
<p>I am not a very &#8220;forward&#8221; person in that I would never yell at someone (to leash there dogs) and I want to remain as calm as possible so my dog does not feed off my anxiety. I also don&#8217;t want to say &#8220;back off shes aggressive&#8221; because I don&#8217;t want people to think negatively of her. I think its very important that people only let a)trained dogs offleash (ones who do not approach other dogs without being given the cue to go meet and b)do not allow there dogs to meet other dogs without permission (I have heard way to many calls of &#8220;he&#8217;s friendly&#8221; ). I am doing everything I can to make my dogs experiences with other dogs as positive as possible..but its difficult when I cannot walk around my own neighborhood without her being harrased. </p>
<p>I really hope people take this into consideration, both in always asking permission to pet a dog and not persisting if the person says no or is unsure, as well as in letting there dogs run up and greet everydog they meet.</p>
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